Getting Messy with Daniel Atlin

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Why leadership in purpose-driven organisations is so complex.

"Changes usually happen not at the centre of an organisation, but at the periphery and at the edges."

Daniel Atlin is a coach, communicator, strategist, fundraiser, adjunct professor, and connector with over 30 years experience in senior roles in Canada's post-secondary, cooperative, and government sectors.

In this episode, he talks to host Charlotte Otter about his leadership journey from the music industry ('we got Napsterized') into the public sector, culminating in a role at Guelph University as Vice President External running fundraising, alumni relations, government relations, community relations, marketing, and traditional comms.

Now a coach and executive advisor to leaders in complex institutions, Daniel is writing and speaking on the topic of sense-making. And he has a passion for unlocking talent and potential as a coach, as well as helping to recruit and promote leaders from diverse backgrounds.

Daniel also makes a big announcement of his own - no spoilers here.

This is a lovely conversation with a wise and thoughtful leader who's making a difference to individuals and organisations alike.
Chapters
  • 00:03 Introduction to Speech Bubbles and Daniel Atlin
  • 03:14 Sense-making leadership for universities
  • 06:34 The messiness of complex organisations
  • 08:06 Daniel's leadership journey
  • 10:38 Managing complex functions and reinvention
  • 11:50 Diversity in leadership and personal experience
  • 14:02 Living reputation as a diverse leader
  • 16:44 Coaching and helping others
  • 17:44 Personal reputation and leadership style
  • 21:25 Transforming organisational culture
  • 25:04 Change through listening and empathy
  • 27:33 Changing the leadership archetype
  • 29:17 Book recommendations and advice for diverse leaders
  • 35:49 Finding joy and an announcement
27 Aug 2025 English Germany Management · Business

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