
Dr Vivienne Ming: The human side of AI adoption (full episode)
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Research shows only 5% of people truly co-create with AI — the rest just outsource their thinking. Dr. Vivienne Ming and Andy Mabaso reveal why companies using true co-creation win product awards and drive revenue while outsourcing produces forgettable marketing slop. Plus: the neuroscience behind cognitive decline, why machines handle certainty while humans must own uncertainty.
Under pressure, good executives do things they know are wrong — then call it "good business." Dr. Vivienne Ming reveals 11% of purpose-driven employees drive 80% of productivity, whilst Andy Mabaso shares Altron's practical roadmap: audit your tools, write policies, choose wisely. Courage isn't genetic — it's practiced. In optimal organisations, most people should be "productively wrong."
Under pressure, good executives do things they know are wrong — then call it "good business." Dr. Vivienne Ming reveals 11% of purpose-driven employees drive 80% of productivity, whilst Andy Mabaso shares Altron's practical roadmap: audit your tools, write policies, choose wisely. Courage isn't genetic — it's practiced. In optimal organisations, most people should be "productively wrong."
Chapters
- 00:02 Introduction to Local Logic podcast and guests
- 01:09 Dr Vivienne Ming introduces her work and philosophy
- 03:58 Altron's approach to AI adoption and human empowerment
- 06:53 Misconceptions about AI and the importance of human-AI collaboration
- 10:35 The dangers of outsourcing thinking to AI
- 14:12 Enterprise wisdom and human agency in AI adoption
- 17:01 Research on effective human-AI collaboration
- 22:54 Ethical considerations in AI tool selection
- 26:26 Frameworks for organisational AI adoption
- 30:04 Identifying the root causes of AI misuse
- 38:42 Balancing empowerment with governance and regulation
- 44:52 Navigating regulatory challenges and policy engagement
- 49:09 Ethics beyond regulations and building courage
- 55:10 Final thoughts on failure, courage, and organisational intelligence





